How To Remove Axle Nut Without Impact

• #i

I tried impact wrench, long breaker bar with extended pipe, PB buster, turning counter-clockwise (left loosy right tighty) and it just didn't bother. I thought it was crossed threaded so I took information technology to a mechanic, it took him all but 30 seconds to take it off and simply 40 mins to install the prophylactic on the CV boot. I didn't come across how he took it off, so now I tried again to remove information technology, and still not having whatsoever success. So What am I doing wrong here? I infringe the i/2 inch socket and one/2 inch billow bar from Autozone. I observe that all bear on sockets are blackness, the one I borrow is silver...does information technology matter? I really gave it all when I turned manually. With the touch wrench, the socket just spins around the nut and i made sure it fits tightly too. So...any aid?

• #two

Perchance information technology was a left-handed thread so your lefty loosey was really hammering it on even farther?

The black touch on sockets are a different metal (chrome vanadium sounds right) designed to stand up to bear on apply. Standard sockets on my impact gun are a gamble I won't have.

Was the socket rounded out? Having it just spin effectually the nut doesn't make any sense, that or the nut was rounded off.

• #3

On my Dakota, information technology is torqued to 150 ft-lbs. I used a breaker bar to get it loose and tighten information technology back upwardly.

• #4

It would announced you just didn't try hard enough if he did it that quickly. I accept a pretty powerful impact wrench, simply accept non tried it for these.

I've undone a few of them and I use a breaker bar along with another few feet of pipe. Even then, I'm quite stiff and have to put a great deal of force into lifting that badboy off the ground. Each fourth dimension I've done it I've expected something to snap before the commodities came loose, but that hasn't happened still.

Ultimately, you could take the spindle nut off a great massive caterpillar without much attempt if you had a long enough pipe/breaker bar and something at the other end didn't snap.

• #5

Usually it's easier to install the nut considering y'all only have to torque it to 181 lb*ft. To remove it, withal I would estimate that it takes 400+ lb*ft. Most mechanics will use a 3/4" drive i-7/16" socket with a 3-1/2' breaker bar.

• #half dozen

The reason it's and then difficult is because if they came off on their own, it would be very very bad.

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• #vii

Dunno why...on my Honda I was easily able to use an electrical bear on to take those nuts off. It was the crank pulley commodities that was a pain to loosen on that car.

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• #8

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It would appear you just didn't try hard enough if he did it that quickly. I have a pretty powerful impact wrench, but have not tried it for these.

I've undone a few of them and I utilize a breaker bar along with another few anxiety of pipe. Even then, I'g quite potent and have to put a peachy deal of force into lifting that badboy off the ground. Each time I've washed information technology I've expected something to snap before the bolt came loose, simply that hasn't happened yet.

Ultimately, yous could take the spindle nut off a great massive caterpillar without much try if y'all had a long enough piping/billow bar and something at the other terminate didn't snap.

Ayup. Archimedes once said that with a long enough lever and a fulcrum, he could movement the earth.

• #9

I remember the spindle nut on my Nissan was seized and so bad y'all woudn't believe. I have a thirteen" breaker bar with a i/2" 30mm socket. I broke 2 sockets!!!!. I didn't have enough fulcrum with only the 13". I really had to use a iron piping from Hard disk drive and put it on the breaker bar. I had to then buy something similar to a firemans wrench with a one" 30mm socket and attach a v' iron pipe to it. The nut finally popped lose.

I tried Atomic number 82 catalyst, heating it, everthing.

That particular wheel had a bad bearing. I think someone over tightened earlier to cause the trouble...

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• #10

Originally posted past: Demon-Xanth
The reason it's so difficult is because if they came off on their ain, information technology would exist very very bad.

That can't happen.

They're held on by an eensy teensy little cotter pivot.

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• #11

eat your wheaties kid!

if an touch wrench can get it off a one/2" drive socket and 3-5' of pipe on a BREAKER BAR (non rachet) should work.

• #12

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
I call back the spindle nut on my Nissan was seized so bad you woudn't believe. I have a 13" breaker bar with a 1/two" 30mm socket. I broke two sockets!!!!. I didn't have enough fulcrum with just the xiii". I actually had to use a atomic number 26 pipe from Hd and put it on the breaker bar. I had to then purchase something similar to a firemans wrench with a 1" 30mm socket and attach a 5' iron pipe to information technology. The nut finally popped lose.

I tried Atomic number 82 catalyst, heating information technology, everthing.

That particular cycle had a bad bearing. I think someone over tightened before to cause the problem...

13" breaker bar is nothing. You need at least 24" - 30" breaker bar.

• #13

Make Sure it'due south not staked. The basics on my Escort were staked down (the nut was aptitude into a slot - significant information technology can't turn).

If y'all don't unstake information technology, yous tin can't spin it off.

Likewise, when I got the two of them off my machine, I used a 24" billow bar and a jack handle.

• #14

36 mm spindle nut? hard to remove?

VW beetle?

• #15

No it'southward a 98 Honda Accord.

I unstake the nut already. Maybe I will try once again today but I am not getting my hope upwardly.

Btw, are PB buster and WD-40 the same thing? I tried Lead buster, mabye I should give WD-40 a attempt likewise?

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• #sixteen

Use the sturdiest socket you lot have with the largest square drive available. For example a iii/four square drive breaker bar and socket tin take more torque than a i/2 or 3/8 inch socket and breaker bar. An impact gun, either electric or air will practise wonders. I own a Rockwell 1/2 inch drive electric impact gun that can become upwardly to about 200 LB/FT of torque. If all else fails, Snap On makes a very special tool called the X4 Torque Multiplier ... simply it is non cheap and is mainly intended for shops that have a repeated need to loosen or tighten very large bolts. This unit can generate upward to yard LB/FT of torque.

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• #17

What were you turning against?

If it was the internal differential or if you lot had the tire on the footing that could be the problem. You need to be turning against something solid.

You did good on the turning terminate past going to a solid billow bar, but maybe the other side was cushioning your torque. You need to apply your force in as sudden a motion every bit possible.

You lot need to make the hub stone solid. Like a large ass c-clamp on the rotor or a fifty-fifty bigger ass pipe wrench on the hub.

Note: big ass is a technical term, although you might have needed a bigger ass.

• #18

Take someone sit down in the car, and have them flooring the restriction pedal. This will solidify your wheel, that mode you lot aren't spinning it against your diff.

Slide a jack handle over your breaker bar. It'll come off.

• #19

Originally posted past: Squisher
What were you turning confronting?

If it was the internal differential or if you had the tire on the ground that could be the problem. You need to be turning against something solid.

You did skilful on the turning end by going to a solid billow bar, simply maybe the other side was cushioning your torque. You need to apply your force in as sudden a motion as possible.

Y'all need to brand the hub rock solid. Like a big donkey c-clamp on the rotor or a fifty-fifty bigger ass pipe wrench on the hub.

Note: big donkey is a technical term, although you might have needed a bigger ass.

Sudden motion eh? That'southward a skilful advice. I will give that a try tmr.

• #20

They do that then the wheels don't fall off.

• #21

Originally posted by: BlackTigers
MAKE SURE it'south not staked. The nuts on my Escort were staked down (the nut was bent into a slot - significant information technology can't turn).

If y'all don't unstake it, you can't spin it off.

Also, when I got the two of them off my car, I used a 24" billow bar and a jack handle.

I've done at least a half dozen axles in my life and have never had to unstake a spindle nut. And yes, they were all staked down properly / far enough. The torque from your breaker bar will probable be more enough to unstake that badboy unless it's really mashed into the keyway.

• #22

I finally got information technology out. The sudden movement is real important. Lesson learned.

Thanks everyone.

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